The Electoral College in Short

So, that being said, why do we have an Electoral College?  The answer is clear from the debates at the Constitutional Convention.  The Founders did not anticipate political parties; indeed, they regarded parties at best as corrupt, and at worst as sinister conspiracies.  Without political parties, there was really no way of establishing a national candidate.  Granted, everyone at the time agreed that George Washington would be the first President, but only because he was commanding general in the War of Independence.  In the absence of so eminent a figure, it was assumed that there would not be any national candidates, but instead that the people of each state would choose the most eminent leader in their own state, and that there would be thirteen candidates.  (More as more states were added).

The alternative was general seen as election by Congress.  This had the disadvantage of election by a standing body and opened the door to corruption and intrigue.  It also destroyed the independence of the executive and made him subordinate to the legislature.*

The Electoral College allowed each state to make its choice clear -- clearer than an attempt to aggregate all the votes from all the states.  By having the Electors chosen solely to choose a President and meet separately each in their own state, the system reduced the likelihood of conspiracy or corruption.  Requiring each Elector to choose a second candidate from outside of the state, they gave an opportunity for a candidate of national prominence to win.  Having Congress choose from among the top five candidates rested on the assumption that each state would have a different winner.  Congress would choose the winner from the five largest states.

And, it should be noted, this system was not controversial at the time.  Indeed, in Federalist Paper No. 68, Hamilton commented:

THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents. The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.

 Yet it became apparent as soon as the very first election that the Electoral College was seriously flawed.  As originally written, whoever each elector was required to vote for two candidates, at least one of whom was not from his own state.  Whoever won the most votes would be the President and the runner-up would become Vice President.  It became clear with the very first election,even though everyone knew that George Washington would be unanimously elected, that if the Electors all voted for the same candidate for Vice-President, there would be no legal distinction as to which was which. By the time John Adams ran for President, candidates were beginning to run in pairs, with one as candidate for President and one for Vice President.  But electors often split their tickets, with the result that Adams was elected President and his rival, Jefferson, became Vice President. Adams' administration was continually hampered by having his leading rival as embedded in his government and impossible to remove.

In turn, when Jefferson was elected, there was no ticket splitting, and the team of Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr.  But there was no official rule as to which of them was President and which was Vice President.  Even though everyone knew Jefferson was supposed to be President and Burr Vice President, officially they were declared a tie and the House went until February, with 36 ballots and all manner of intrigue before finally voting in favor of Jefferson.  After this the Twelfth Amendment  was enacted, arranging for the President and Vice President to run as a pair, with clear rules as to which was which.  The rule as to how the House would vote in case of tie remained.

This procedure has been used only once since, in the 1824 election, when the Electoral College split among four candidates.  Although Andrew Jackson won the most electoral and popular votes, Henry Clay (then Speaker of the House) swung the House in favor of John Quincy Adams in exchange for being appointed his Secretary of State.  Jackson and his followers were understandably outraged and went on to win the following election.  On the whole, though, the system of breaking Electoral College deadlocks by the House of Representatives, voting by states, has proven a very bad one in the few cases that it has been used.  Many believe that the Supreme Court's ruling in Bush v. Gore was intended to avoid the crisis associated with a repeat performance.

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*Later governments would develop a parliamentary system that would, in fact, make subordinate of the executive to the legislature work perfectly well.  But it required strong, well-disciplined political parties, a thing no one anticipated at the time, and a flexible election system that allowed calling new elections in case of an insurmountable political crisis.

Why Do We Have an Electoral College?

I usually use my other blog to post on topical subjects, but the subject of the Electoral College and why we have it has been in the news lately.  Some say it is because the Founding Fathers distrusted the common people and wanted to put a buffer between them and election of the President.  Others say it was to prevent the rise of populist demagogues, or to protect slave states.

My history of law professor saw it as something far more innocent -- the unfamiliarity of the whole practice of tabulating votes over a wide area.  Yet the four New England state and New York all had popularly elected governors and tabulated voted across the state.  The New England states were even experimenting with the referendum.  Massachusetts and New Hampshire submitted their new state constitutions to a referendum.  Connecticut and Rhode Island stuck with their colonial charters, which gave them more autonomy than the other colonies, but they were the only states to have popular election of delegates to the Continental Congress, and Rhode Island also held a referendum on the constitution.  It is true that the practice was less familiar in other states, and that the New England states and New York were held up as examples of why popular election over a large territory was feasible.

But something else was at work.  To truly understand why we have the Electoral College, it is better go go back to when it was actually instituted, i.e., at the Constitutional Convention.  Other than the issue of equal representation in the Senate, no issue at the Constitutional Convention proved so difficult as how to choose a President.  

The Virginia Plan, introduced on the second day of the Convention as the backbone of the ultimate Constitution, proposed for the National Executive to be chosen by the Legislature.  The subject next came up June 1, when James Wilson of Pennsylvania proposed a one-man executive, a proposal which caused some controversy at first.  As for the means of selection:

Mr. WILSON said he was almost unwilling to declare the mode which he wished to take place, being apprehensive that it might appear chimerical. He would say however at least that in theory he was for an election by the people. Experience, particularly in N. York & Massts., shewed that an election of the first magistrate by the people at large, was both a convenient & successful mode. The objects of choice in such cases must be persons whose merits have general notoriety.

So, the whole idea of direct popular election of a national executive at first seemed "almost . . . chimerical."  But why?

The first response to Wilson was from Roger Sherman of Connecticut responded by calling for election by the Legislature and a clear subordination of the executive to the legislature, saying that he considered independence of the executive "the very essence of tyranny."  Given his way, Sherman would presumably have created something like a parliamentary system.  His view did not prevail; rather, the general assumption at the time was that independence of the executive from the legislature was essential to liberty.  George Mason of Virginia "favors the idea, but thinks it impracticable. He wishes however that Mr. Wilson might have time to digest it into his own form." Presumably he meant the logistical details that were set forth in such painstaking detail in Massachusetts. Election by the National Legislature remained in force, at least for the time being.

The subject was next broached July 17, by which time a single executive was accepted as uncontroversial. That undemocratic cynic, Gouverneur Morris favored popular election of the national executive to keep him independent of the legislature.

He ought to be elected by the people at large, by the freeholders of the Country. That difficulties attend this mode, he admits. But they have been found superable in N. Y. & in Cont. and would he believed be found so, in the case of an Executive for the U. States. If the people should elect, they will never fail to prefer some man of distinguished character, or services; some man, if he might so speak, of continental reputation. -- If the Legislature elect, it will be the work of intrigue, of cabal, and of faction; it will be like the election of a pope by a conclave of cardinals; real merit will rarely be the title to the appointment.

 Sherman again disagreed, no longer arguing for subordination of the executive to the legislature, but saying that if the people vote, they will not know who is of national importance and always choose someone from their own state, so the largest state will always win.

Wilson gives us another example of what might be intended by the difficulties of popular election.  The main example in 1787 of popular election of an executive was in Poland, where the king was elected by the nobility, who made up about 10% of the population.  They nonetheless assembled on one place to hold the election -- a vast plain, where they all showed up armed to the teeth.  Election usually degenerated into battle.  If the country was lucky, the battle proved decisive and a victor was declared.  If the country was unlucky, the battle would not be decisive and civil war would ensue.  No wonder people hesitated at popular election!  He also proposed that, if a majority could not be reached, the legislature could vote among the top candidates.  That would avoid at least the intrigue involved in election by the legislature.

Charles Pinckney of South Carolina expressed a fear that the people of the large states would conspire to elect one of their own, to which Morris replied that the people would be too numerous to conspire; only the legislature could conspire.  He also denied that the people would be too ill-informed to elect an executive.  They would be ignorant of all the in's and out's of the legislature, but not of the most eminent men on a national scale.  George Mason disagreed, saying that the U.S. was simply too large for the people to be aware of the best candidates and "He conceived it would be as unnatural to refer the choice of a proper character for chief Magistrate to the people, as it would, to
refer a trial of colours to a blind man."  Hugh Williamson of North Carolina warned that, although the most distinguished characters on a national scale were known now, they might not always be known in the future, so people would choose and eminent character from their own state and the largest state would always win.  He then warned the Virginians that their state would not prevail because so large a share of its population were slaves.  And he proposed limits to a single term, and a fixed salary to keep the executive independent of the legislature.  Election by the National Legislature again remained.

The subject arose again two days later,  This time Madison raised objections to election of the executive by the legislature, saying that he wanted to guarantee the independence of the executive, and that the people would choose someone well-known and respected.  His only difficulty was with slavery -- the slave states would lose because of their large non-voting populations, so he proposed electors instead.  Elbridge Gerry opposed both election by the Legislature as denying executive independence, and by the people, for fear the executive would never dare take necessary but unpopular actions.  He proposed election by electors chosen by the state executives.  (This presumably mean the Governor and Council, the form of executive in almost all states).  Oliver Ellsworth proposed election by electors roughly in proportion to each state's population.  This proposal passed with the support of all states except the Deep South.  A vote for electors to be chosen by state legislatures also passed.  Dispute over how to apportion electors continued the next day, with the usual large state-small state conflict.

Four days later, election was once again returned to the National Legislature, but met with immediate push back, again over concern for executive independence.  James Wilson went so far as to propose election by a select number of legislators, chosen by lot, and to act immediately, in order to avoid intrigue.  This strange method of election actually passed, only to be tabled, and the subject reserved until later.

The subject continued the next day, with Ellsworth proposing to make the Executive elective by the National Legislature for a first term and by electors chosen by state legislatures for a second term. This time Madison set forth in detail what he considered the problems with each form of election.  Election by National Legislature would be open to intrigue, faction and foreign influence, and would subordinate the executive to the legislature.  Election by state legislatures would subordinate the National Executive to the states and their suspiciously populist designs, and would also be subject to intrigue.  Electors chosen by the people were his favored method.  Since they would not be a standing body, would meet in separate place, and would vote almost immediately after being elected, they were much less susceptible to corruption and intrigue.  The only objection was that they had already been rejected.  Election by the people would mean that people who tend to favor citizens of their own states and exclude the small states, and would put the southern states at a disadvantage because of their large numbers of slaves.  But he preferred election by the people to election by any standing body and was willing to make the sacrifice.  Pierce Butler of South Carolina considered election by the people too "complex and unwieldy" to be practical and favored electors chosen by state legislatures, with each state to have an equal number of electors.  There was further talk about insulating the Executive from legislative domination by term limits.  Hugh Williamson suggested popular election with each voter required to choose three candidates.  This way, even if one was from their own state, at least one would probably be nationally eminent.  Morris proposed reducing the number to two.  Gerry feared that such a proposal would lead to conspiracies to put forward a second choice.*  John Dickinson proposed popular election, which he assumed would lead to each state choosing one of its own, and then a vote by the National Legislature or electors chosen by them among the top 13 choices.

The subject continued the next day as well.  It began with George Mason warning against any sort of popular election lest it be subverted by a conspiracy.  Election on the basis Dickinson proposed would exclude anyone unpopular in his own state.  He considered election by the National Legislature the least objectionable form, so long as the Executive was limited to a single term to ensure his independence.  Election was once again returned to the National Legislature.

The subject then lay dormant until September 4, when a Committee appointed to modify the Constitution proposed something very similar to the Electoral College as it exists today.  Each state was to choose a number of electors equal to its number of Senators and Representatives.  The electors were then to meet separately, each in their own state, and vote for two people, one of whom could not be from their state, and submit the sealed results to the National Legislature.  The only real difference was that the Senate, instead of the House, was to decide if no one received a majority of the vote. The choice must be from among the top five vote-getters.  Madison explains in a footnote (no. 17) explains that this was an alliance between delegates from the small states and ones from the large states who wanted a "high mounted" government.  

This proposal was met with immediate resistance, mostly on the assumption that election by the Senate would be a common occurrence.  Madison complained that requiring the choice to be from among the top five would amount to having the larger states nominate candidates to be chosen by the Senate.  Most of the others expressed alarm at giving the Senate what they expected to be the final choice of a President, believing that it would reduce the President to a mere creature of the Senate, especially if the Senate had the power of trying impeachments as well.  This looked like the creation of an aristocracy.  Some proposed to allow the two houses jointly to make the decision.  Others proposed limiting the choice to the top two vote getters, or preserving the President's independence by limiting him to a single term.  Hamilton proposed that whoever got the most votes, though not a majority, should automatically be elected.

In defense of the system, Morris said that since each elector was required to name a second candidate, from outside of his state, there was a good chance that someone of national prominence could arise from these second choices.  Sherman argued that making a choice from the top five gave the large states an advantage, while having the Senate make the final choice gave the advantage to the small states, creating a balance.  Rufus King, of Massachusetts, made a similar argument.  

In the end, a compromise was made between the delegates who feared the aristocratic influence of the Senate and small state delegates who favored the Senate because it gave them an equal vote.  If no one received a majority in the Electoral College, the House of Representatives would choose among the top five candidates, voting by states.  This was the version that ultimately passed.

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*He wasn't altogether wrong about that.  We did, in the end, develop just such conspiracies.  They are called political parties.

The Northwest Ordinance: A Background

Territory established at the end of the Revolutionary War

While the Constitutional Convention was drawing up the Constitution, the Continental Congress was preparing an extremely important, even foundational, document of its own --  the  Northwest Ordinance.   It was the Northwest Ordinance that laid the foundation for the admission of new states, making it an extremely important piece of legislation.  Indeed, it is often treated as something in between the Constitution and ordinary legislation.  Yet it is almost forgotten in history books today (at least, my US history books never so much as mentioned it).

Rival claims by US States

It is generally known that the treaty that ended the Revolutionary War gave the new United States all the territory from the Atlantic to the Mississippi, and that only the land east of the Appalachians had been organized into states.

Not so well remembered is that the existing states had competing claims for the western lands.  But, as the neighboring map shows, the borders in the western territories were often unclear, with rival states laying claim to the same land.  It also shows that some states (mostly the mid-Atlantic states) did not have claims to western land and (unsurprisingly) resented the states that did.

The uncertain borders were a fruitful field for disputes.  It was not that anyone feared rival states going to war over disputed land.  The Articles of Confederation had procedures for resolving such disputes.  But different states could very well sell the same land to different people, leading to conflict between rival claimants that could not possibly be resolved without injustice to one or more parties.  Massachusetts and Connecticut claimed land that was non-contiguous with the states and could hardly be viable.  Virginia, by contrast, claimed land as far north and the Great Lakes.  Technically, this land would be contiguous with Virginia, but its immense size naturally made the other states resentful.  Furthermore, the sale of western land was a major source of revenue.  States without this resource resented states with it, and everyone resented Virginia.

It was Thomas Jefferson who came up with the way out of this dilemma.  Virginia would cede its disputed land to the federal government (then established under the Articles of Confederation), in exchange for an agreement to admit the ceded lands as states on an equal basis with existing ones. Pause for moment to consider the extraordinary statesmanship of such a proposal.  How oven has any government agreed to part with such an immense territorial claim?  Scarcely less remarkable is the willingness of existing states to see their power diluted by adding new ones.  But it was this agreement that made possible the extraordinary achievement of the Constitutional Convention, the establishment of popular government over an unprecedented territory, and the creation of an extensive country with no "metropolis" and no "periphery," no part dominating another, but all participating as equal states.

The process began with the Land Ordinance of 1784.  I will proceed with it over my next few posts.

Constitution as a Transition Between Old and New Democracy

It is pointless criticizing the Constitution for not establishing a full-scale new democracy when there was no serious call for a full-scale new democracy as we know it today.  Certainly, new democratic ideas were in circulation, and in a few people, most notably James Wilson, they were starting to take shape into an alternative to old democracy. 

But most people felt less an urgent need for a full-fledged new democracy than alarm at the Constitution’s threat to old democracy.  And, indeed, it defied old democratic principles at almost every turn – no annual elections, a mere sixty-five Representatives for a nation of three million people, a six-year term for the Senate, a strong executive without a council, partial eligibility of legislators to executive office, and no bill of rights.  Only two partial vestiges of old democracy remained.  All money bills had to originate in the House, keeping the power of the purse in the hands of the people, but this power was made largely meaningless because the Senate could change money bills.  Election of Senators by state legislatures could be considered an old democratic feature, because state legislatures could more easily instruct and control representatives than the people as a whole, but this, too, was made meaningless by their six-year terms, which allowed them to defy state legislatures with impunity.

Instead of seeing the Constitution as a rejection of old democracy, as its contemporary opponents did, or as a failure to achieve true new democracy, as some people do now, I believe we should see it as an important document in the transition from old democracy to new.   If the Constitution failed in several new democratic aspects, consider all the new democratic elements that it had.

The House was to be elected by the people directly (unlike the Continental Congress under the Articles) and, although there was no national guaranty of the vote, it was placed on the broadest basis that existed in the states.  Seats in the House were to be apportioned by population only, not by wealth (although the three-fifths rule was problematic), and to be reapportioned every ten years to ensure that it remained proportional to population.  Although the Constitution says the number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every 30,000 inhabitants, it never specifies that each Congressional district must have equal population.  Nonetheless, it seems to have been generally assumed that each district would, in fact, have equal population. 

Under the original plan, the House was supposed to represent the people and the Senate the states.  If this does not appeal to today’s new democratic sensibilities, keep in mind that in many states at the time, the lower house represented the people and the upper house represented wealth, and many delegates to the Convention, including such democrats as George Mason, expected the U.S. Senate to play a similar role.  Representation of wealth plays no part in the Constitution (with the possible exception of the three-fifths rule).   Given the practice of instructing representatives that was common at the time, it is even possible that the delegates foresaw that presidential electors would be pledged to particular candidates, bringing presidential elections closer to the people than it would appear at first sight.  But most remarkable of all, there were no property or religious restrictions on federal office holders (nor restrictions of race or sex either), only restrictions of age and citizenship.  Of all states, only Pennsylvania completely eliminated property restrictions on office, and only Virginia, New York and (probably) Rhode Island did not have religious restrictions. 

In the years following the adoption of the Constitution, new democracy grew and old democracy slowly withered away.  We are taught to remember and honor the rise of new democracy – the end of restrictions on the vote, popular election of presidential electors and later Senators, the proliferation of elective state and local offices, the end of representation by wealth, the secret ballot and the adoption in many states of initiative and referendum.  We do not hear so much about the decline of old democracy – the end of annual elections, the ever-growing ratio of representation between representatives and voters, the end of instruction of representatives, the strengthening of executives, and our loss of fear of standing armies.  Certainly, the federal Constitution has proven to be amenable to new democratic reform, and our old democratic fears have long since been forgotten.

My object in this paper has not been to idealize old democracy (although perhaps I may be accused of it).  Whatever its other merits, old democracy has one irredeemable flaw – it is completely impractical in a society like ours today.  In a society of our scale, it is simply not possible for the voters to assemble to instruct their representatives.  When the great majority of the population is no longer self-employed, the risk of economic coercion in  any system of open voting is all too real.  Representation in a society as large as ours cannot possibly be in the sort of ratio considered necessary at the time the Constitution was adopted.  And to forego standing armies in today’s world would be nothing short of insanity.  But if my intention is not to idealize old democracy.  It is call into question any oversimplified assumptions about what democracy can be, and to discourage any smug assumptions of simple progress, or the belief that our history has been anything so simple as the story of democracy ever increasing.

Having completed the series on the Constitutional Convention, I plan to give this blog a break for a while.  When I return, it will be to discuss the controversy surrounding the adoption of the Constitution.

Criticisms of the Constitution as Undemocratic

People these days who criticize the Constitution, as originally drafted, as undemocratic do so on new democratic terms.  The undemocratic features of the Constitution as originally drafted are (1) it left in place existing state restrictions on the vote; (2) Senators were elected by state legislatures instead of the people; and (3) the President is elected by the Electoral College instead of the people directly, and at the time presidential electors were generally chosen by state legislatures. 

Yet these are not the arguments people made against the Constitution during the ratification debates.  When opponents of the Constitution criticized it as undemocratic, it was invariably on old democratic grounds.  People criticized the House of Representatives for have a two-year instead of a one-year term, for not being large enough to adequately represent the people, and for allowing Congress to regulate elections (many people feared that Congress would order elections to be held in some inaccessible place to prevent voters from attending) but not for retaining existing state restrictions on the vote.  People criticized the lack of an executive council and said that the President was too powerful or (surprisingly and more often) not powerful enough, but the Electoral College was a very minor source of controversy.  As for the Senate, people criticized its six-year terms, its small numbers, its ability to alter money bills, its equal representation by states (in large states), its role in appointments and treaties, and its role as a court of impeachments.  Election of Senators by the state legislatures was not controversial.  After all, under the Articles of Confederation, all representatives were elected by state legislatures.  Election of the Senate in the same manner merely continued a familiar custom.

In fact, James Wilson, who we have seen was the foremost new democrat at the Convention, made a famous speech in favor of the constitution in which he presented these as important arguments in favor of the Constitution.  Clearly, he said, the central government  could not be intended to destroy state governments if state legislatures set voting qualifications for the House, elect Senators and decide how presidential electors are to be chosen.  These three features show that the new system could not survive without states.*

The Federalist Papers are also revealing, going on the assumption that what they argue most strenuously is a good indication of what was most controversial at the time.  In the section on the House, they devote two essays to defending two-year terms, three essays to defendant Congress’ authority to regulate elections , three essays to arguing that the House is large enough to be safe to liberty and one paragraph to discussing voting qualifications.  Likewise, out of the five essays on the Senate, the election of Senators by state legislatures is dismissed in one short paragraph as “probably the most congenial with public opinion.”  As for the Electoral College,  Hamilton calls it, “almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe criticism or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents”

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*Wilson's speech was reprinted and circulated throughout the states and became the single best known document in favor of the Constitution.  As the earliest major Federalist argument, it effectively became the Federalist playbook that other arguments in favor of the Constitution followed.  The Federalist Papers in many places are simply an expansion on Wilson's arguments and would probably have seemed like a mere recitation of well-worn talking points by Anti-Federalist contemporaries.

Was There a Correlation Between Delegates' Support for Centralization and Democracy?

So, back to the original thesis I proposed, was there any correlation between a delegate’s position on centralization and his position on democracy?  Once one distinguishes between old and new democracy, the question becomes more complicated, but the answer becomes simpler.

First and most obvious, the two extreme nationalists, Alexander Hamilton and George Read, were also among the top advocates of mixed government.  Moderate nationalists also included some mixed government men, notably Gouverneur Morris, Rufus King and, arguably, Charles Pinckney.  But they also included the leading new democrats – James Wilson, James Madison, Nathaniel Gorham and, yes, Edmund Randolph and George Mason.  

Indeed, some nationalistic positions were inherently new democratic.  All nationalists except Charles Pinckney supported popular election of the House, and most favored representation by population.  Granted, some of them (Hamilton, Morris, King) held these positions for nationalistic, rather than democratic reasons, to limit state power, but the effect was democratic whatever the intention.  Significantly, of all these nationalists, only Randolph and Mason took the core old democratic position that legislators should be absolutely ineligible to executive office.  Also significantly, it was these two nationalists, who had significant old democratic as well new democratic views, who refused to sign the Constitution in its final form, partly for old democratic reasons and partly out of concern for state sovereignty.  Randolph worried that Congress’s power to spend money for the “general welfare” and make all laws “necessary and proper” to carry out its other powers were too broad, while Mason reverted to an outright state sovereignty man during the ratification debates.  But neither raised any new democratic objections, such as that state restrictions of the vote remained, or that the President and Senate were not directly elected.

On the other hand, moderates on centralization like Elbridge Gerry and Hugh Williamson and compromisers like Roger Sherman and Benjamin Franklin tended to be old democrats.  Franklin, though he favored the new democratic positions of opposing property restrictions on the vote or office holding, was clearly an old democrat in his distrust of the executive and wish for the power of the purse strings (and, ideally, all power) to be in the hands of the lower house.  Oliver Ellsworth, John Dickinson and the South Carolina moderates do not classify as clearly.  Yet on the core old democratic issue of ineligibility to office, all but Dickinson favored an absolute ineligibility of legislators to executive office. (Dickinson did not weigh in).

As for advocates of state sovereignty, they generally said little on the subject of how the federal government should be organized, being more interested in limiting its power than in structural details.  When they did take a position on the structure of the federal government, it was not necessarily a democratic one.  Luther Martin (Maryland) wanted judges to be chosen by the Senate instead of the executive and favored a ceiling on the size of a peacetime army.  These are both old democratic positions, but in both cases he was more interested in limiting the power of the central government than in democratizing it.  He opposed the new democratic principles of direct popular election of the House or representation by population as threats to the powers of states.  Similarly, William Patterson (New Jersey) in order to maintain state sovereignty was willing to go against not only the new democratic principles of popular election of the House and representation by population, but also the old democratic principle of a numerous legislature:  

With proper powers Congs [i.e., the old Continental Congress] will act with more energy & wisdom than the proposed Nat’l Legislature; being fewer in number, and more secreted & refined by the mode of election.

One might expect advocates of state sovereignty to favor the old democratic principle of short terms for both houses to keep the national legislature under the control of the states, but even this does not appear to have been the case.  It was the New England states of Massachusetts and Connecticut who took the lead in calling for annual terms for the House and less than seven years for the Senate; New York, New Jersey and Delaware all voted for a three-year term for the House, while New York split on a seven-year term for the Senate with New Jersey and Delaware in favor.  

The New Jersey Plan was old democratic in favoring a weak, plural national executive elected by the national legislature.  Overall, advocates of state sovereignty favored limiting the direct agency of the people in the federal government.  They probably did not see that as undemocratic.  Most likely, they saw the central government as so large and remote as to be inherently beyond the people’s control and believed that giving people direct agency in it would simply create a false appearance of democracy.  Real democracy would be best served by limiting the power of this remote government and keeping it at the more manageable state level.  It would be safer to keep agency in the hands of the states than the people, because states would be better able than the people to keep the central government under control.

The Inscrutable South Carolina: Somewhere Between Old Democracy and Mixed Government

If the South Carolina delegation scores low on new democracy, it scores low on old democracy as well, though never endorsing anything like mixed government.  Consider its position on old democracy issues:

Intermediate length terms:  Recall that old democracy set great stock in annual elections, while true advocates of mixed government wanted a Senate that served for life, or at least a very long term and a long term for the executive. South Carolina fit somewhere in between.  South Carolina’s electoral system worked on a two-year cycle so, not too surprisingly, the South Carolinians wanted to synchronize national elections to their cycle.  Rutledge favored a two-year term for the House, and South Carolina joined with New England in opposing a three-year term.  General Pinckney favored a four-year term for the Senate as opposed to a six-year term, fearing that Senators serving a six-year term would settle in at the capital and become alienated from their constituents. None of the other South Carolinians spoke up on the subject, but South Carolina did vote against nine, seven, six  and five year terms.  Charles Pinckney favored a seven-year term for the executive or, alternately, six years with a prohibition on consecutive terms.  Rutledge favored a single seven-year term.  Butler was less clear what the executive term should be, but he opposed too-frequent elections because it was inconvenient for the distant states to send electors often.

No need to restrict money bills to the House:  South Carolina required all money bills to originate in the lower house.  This apparently caused problems because all four South Carolinians opposed requiring money bills to originate in the lower house.  Both Charles Pinckney considered the matter
of no importance.  General Pinckney said South Carolina’s restriction of money bills to the lower house had led to serious disputes between the houses and was often evaded.  Rutledge likewise said the South Carolina restriction was constantly “dividing & heating” the houses and was evaded by the Senate demanding certain changes in order to approve a bill.  Butler saw no need to forbid the Senate from originating money bills, since they were not a House of Lords.

Ambivalence about the executive:  Recall that old democracy views the executive with deep suspicion, while mixed government wants to make the President a sort of limited monarch.  Here, too, South Carolina took an intermediate view.  Three of the four South Carolinians spoke out for a single executive.  Charles Pinckney seconded Wilson’s original motion for a single executive and renewed the motion the next day, though he said the executive should not have the power of war and peace or he would become a monarch.  Rutledge said much the same, and that a single executive would feel the greatest "responsibility."   Butler said that the members of a plural executive would constantly be quarreling and that this would be particularly harmful in military matters. 

Otherwise, it was on executive power that the South Carolina delegates disagreed most.  Charles Pinckney seconded Morris’s motion for an advisory council, but believed the council should not be able to bind the President, or it would either obstruct him or shelter him.  The executive should exercise his veto alone, without joining the department heads or the judges.  He favored a two-thirds, rather than three-quarters vote to override an executive veto. He opposed making the President impeachable by the legislature, saying that making the executive impeachable by the legislature would destroy his independence and would not be necessary if his power could be limited enough. He favored legislative appointment of judges and the treasurer and ambassadors, with sole executive appointment of all other officials.  At the end of the Convention, Charles Pinckney said he was signing the Constitution even though he disapproved of the "contemptible weakness and dependence" of the executive.  

The others said less on the subject.  Rutledge opposed including judges in the executive veto.  He opposed absolute executive appointment of judges as monarchical but favored executive appointment of the treasurer.  Butler considered opposed an absolute executive veto as too much power in danger of abuse and thought the executive should suspend, rather than veto, bad laws.  He would allow the Senate to make treaties of peace without the consent of the President to prevent the President from trying prolong a war in order to aggrandize his own power.  On the other hand, advocated giving the executive the sole power to decide when to go to war, a decision that shocked Elbridge Gerry.  General Pinckney said almost nothing on the subject, except that he favored executive appointment of the treasurer.

Moderate views or opposition to legislative eligibility to executive office:  I would consider this the core, defining issue of old democracy.  The South Carolina delegation generally either favored the restriction or had moderate views. Charles Pinckney did not think legislators should be ineligible to office.  The representatives who had the people’s confidence should not be treated as suspect.  He hoped the legislature would attract talent and become a training ground for future officials.  In order prevent corruption, he proposed to make legislators ineligible to offices they create or increase in pay or requiring them to resign from the legislature upon being appointed.  Rutledge, on the other hand, wanted the national legislature to be ineligible to executive office to keep them “as pure as possible” and prevent corruption.  Butler wanted legislators to be ineligible to office to avoid the corruption that had "ruined" the British government.  Ineligibility only to offices the legislature creates or increases in pay was not sufficient.  General Pinckney did not address the issue.

Bill of Rights:  Charles Pinckney was one of the leading advocates of guarantying the rights of individuals.  He moved for what amounted to a bill of rights, calling for protecting freedom of the press, requiring legislative approval of all troops and strict civilian control of the military, no quartering of troops in people’s houses and no religious tests for office.  He also moved to forbid the suspension of habeas corpus except in emergencies and for only twelve months, to prohibit religious tests for office, to preserve freedom of the press and to guaranty jury trial in civil cases.  General Pinckney also approved of forbidding religious tests for office holding.  Rutledge wanted to declare the writ of habeas corpus inviolable, saying that he could not conceived that suspension would ever be necessary at the same time in all the states. 

Looking over this list of positions, I am inclined to say that the South Carolina delegation's ideology is best described as somewhere between old democracy and mixed government, generally rejecting new democracy.